so guccione came into the mens magazine market and took a big chunk away from playboy, because ph were well financed, and were always showing a little more, first to do full frontal nudity, playboy copied, first to do pubic hair, first for a lot

well and good and yeah i remember these personally, we always liked penthouse better even the writing was better, then omni came and the writing was best, and kathy keaton was real weird, they hit her because she exposed the vatican connex to the nwo and did it well before nwo was a well known term....they killed her deader than a mackeral with EARLY DEW and biotech cancer, got guccione too, worked on him quite some time, must have been close.

But do not forget bush was working on both reagans the whole time reags was in white house (NANCY KNOWS!!!), the hinckley thing was bush cia mkstuff, then reags was recovering but in whitehouse wouold get sicker, then leave whitehouse for short period, get weell fast, he was hardy, was that old bonzo lover...but easy to see reags hit relentlessly by people smiling in his face and trying to kill him , the brotherhood within the cia, the appointed for life and black ops people, they are the secret army and enablers of the sadistic groups like the bush family...

anyway old guccione of the scrambled brains he ends up suing his own sons because they got success by using penthouse as springboard, and he is broke because in an effort to stay on the leading edge hoohoohoo, hahahahahaha, oh, this is rich, mind control central....gucci was a superb subject, looked like:

Guccione’s other strategy to combat the new hard-core has been more questionable. In the later nineties, he decided to up the ante. “Pees on Earth,” the title of a double-page spread in December 1996, is self-explanatory. Urination, fetishwear, and “facials” have been on the menu monthly.

“That’s Mr. Guccione,” Lainie Speiser, the magazine’s director of promotions, says. “He likes to move it forwards. He thinks he’s taken it to the next level.” Tony Guccione says, “He loves to push the envelope. He’s a very defiant, aggressive person.”

Shortly before his departure, Tony Guccione advised a makeover for the magazine, a strategic toning down. Others agreed.

“It’s disgusting! I would say, ‘Bob, do we really need these pictures? They’re all about humiliation!’ ” says a former executive.

“He’d say, ‘That’s what readers want!’

“We would say that it wasn’t what the readers wanted, and it certainly wasn’t what the advertisers wanted.

“Bob would say, ‘When people tell me I’m wrong—that’s when I know I’m right.’ ”

The result was catastrophic. Bill Clinton, of all people, had Penthouse tossed from military stores. And it is even possible that the publisher didn’t take much pleasure in executing the strategy himself. He used to shoot a few pictorials every year but had not done so for six or seven years.

Why, I ask?

“I got tired of it,” he says, barely audibly.

Penthouse declared bankruptcy in August. Those circling around the property included the inevitable Larry Flynt, Jenna Jameson, and a Mexican property developer, who announced plans to build a Penthouse-themed resort. All wanted to keep Guccione in a prominent role.